A colleague quoted me and made this little sticker to inform clients.
To say the least, Brian knows what he’s talking about. This is great information to know for those of you who don’t already!
Because Brian Skellie Said So
I am not a piercer, but as a microbiologist, I have a few questions about this. If you’re using the autoclave correctly, everything should be killed. Nothing is going to ‘grow back’ after a proper autoclave session. (There are a very few microbes that are resistant to normal autoclave settings, but these are rare and highly controlled in the labs they’re studied in, the chances of them appearing on a average person’s jewelry is extremely low). And I’m not quite sure how ‘protein residues’ could possibly cause a bacterial/fungal/viral infection? Perhaps leftover toxins that are produced by certain microbes (i.e. S. aureus, a common skin microbe, can produce a toxin) could cause damage but it wouldn’t be an actual infection. And the vast majority of those toxin proteins (including the S. aureus toxin) are destroyed by the heat and pressure of the autoclave.
The only one of these that kind of makes sense is prions since as far as I know those are extremely difficult or impossible to decontaminate. But prions (the causative factor of ‘mad cow disease’, among others) are only spread through contaminated brain tissue, so I would think the likelihood of them appearing on a piercing would be extremely low.
Not that I’m saying buying used body jewelry is a good idea. I personally would never want to buy used jewelry. But the scientific inaccuracies here don’t really inspire confidence in the piercer. If I saw this at a studio I went to get pierced at, I would turn around and walk right back out the door.
Hello microbiologist friend smartsexyscientist :)
These points were reduced from a much more involved conversation in the context of describing why sales of used body jewelry is an untenable business practice, and to discourage professionals from considering their autoclaves infallible. At a piercing studio, you wouldn’t want to have to question if someone had previously worn your jewelry or if it was new and safely handled prior to cleaning and sterilization.
If it is not clean, it can’t be sterilized.
A colleague cherry picked quips to keep it simple for a lay person to understand . As easy as it may be to pick it apart, it is clear that you got the message, and as a person who describes some understanding of steam sterilization, you already understand that an autoclave process should be effective against most pathogens. Prions are one harmful known protein type that are not destroyed by steam sterilization, and require more harsh means for removal from a surface. They are most often spread through contaminated brain and spinal tissue, but also through other kinds of nervous tissue, such as the tongue.
Another part of the problem when it comes to body jewelry is that the autoclave operator most likely does not have a background in clinical microbiology and infection prevention, and may not have optimal equipment to clean and sterilize jewelry. Most of the autoclaves used in North American piercing studios do not have dynamic air removal such as a vacuum or pressure pulsing system. They rely on gravity displacement and can not adequately sterilize hollow, porous or wrapped loads, which results in regrowth.
I do not condone appeal to authority, even when I’m the alleged authority. I am a person very interested in the specifics of “how clean is clean enough,” and to this end continue to study and participate in the related workgroups in the ASTM F04.15 subcommittee on on Material Test Methods.
We’ve been working on the problem of reliable validation for surgical implant reuse for philanthropic purposes for over a decade. For example, pacemakers can be still functional for years after explanted from a deceased individual. The concerns for failure are due to both infectious material (protein, bacterial, fungal and viral) that resists autoclave processes inside crevices and hollow or porous spaces, and endotoxin and pyrogen residues that can cause rejection, even without infection.
Biofilm and denatured proteins that can prevent effective decontamination are known problems with body jewelry. More on this subject here.
References of interest:
ASTM F2847 - 10 Standard Practice for Reporting and Assessment of Residues on Single Use Implants
WK32535 New Practice for Establishing Limit Values for Residues on Single use Implants
WK33439 New Guide for Standard test soils for validation of cleaning methods for reusable medical devices
I support the establishing evidence based standards for decontamination and sterilization of medical device and other surgical implants for reuse, if it can be done safely and consistently. Once that sort of process is standardized in medicine, then it might be applied to body jewelry. This shouldn’t be impossible, and may be forthcoming. A promising note is that there are processes to clean bone and tissue for allograft and implant from exogenous sources, such as cadavers, into patients in need. These sorts of things under clinical investigation may result in the standards we need for reprocessing body jewelry.
Until implants can be safely reused under routine conditions, we should not reprocess previously worn body jewelry for anyone but the original wearer’s own personal reuse.
Anonymous said: Is it possible for the body to become more efficient at healing piercings the more you've had? I've received somewhere around 20-30 in the last 7 years and for the last year or so I've had no trouble at all, everything's been settled and happy within days. (obviously not healed, but not in anyway sore, even to touch, very minimal discharge, etc)
Well there are two possibilities.
You have developed mutant healing abilities. Have you noticed anything else strange? Metallic claws protruding from your hands? Excessive amounts of yellow spandex or using the word “bub”?
You simply know how to take care of a new piercing properly after this many times around the track. You probably understand that leaving the piercing alone and letting your body heal is the best way to avoid problems developing.
Hahaha I love ryanpba!
Anonymous said: What online shops do you recommend for buying body jewelry?
I don’t. Support piercers, not online retailers. Let me know where you’re from and I’ll try to find you a reputable piercer to support locally. If you don’t have one, then we can talk about ordering jewelry through a reputable piercer.
Priscilla was referred to us from a friend in San Francisco, CA. She fell in love with this 16g heart and decide to get her daith pierced. I love my friends, and Priscilla loves her new piercing! Heart seems very appropriate for this occasion… so much love… #daithpiercing #appmember #safepiercing #daithheart #daith #closethegap
Guess whose birthday it is today!
Ryan is pretty much one of the most awesome guys you’ll ever meet. Super smart, witty, and downright hilarious.
On top of that, this guy works his butt off as a full time piercer, studio owner, AND constantly staying on top of a mountain of volunteer work for The APP.
So happy birthday Ryan. You’re awesome and we all love you.
Cody Vaughn - APP Outreach Committee
Happy birthday lord of the blade!
My only question: WHY IS IT BLACK OH MY GOD
It’s great that you reblogged my photo but do you have to be so rude? Vagina’s come in all different shapes, sizes and colors. Why do you have to be judgmental over the female anatomy? Please refrain from making negative comments about my clients bodies. You never know who might see this picture and what negative self image issues you may perpetuate! Vagina’s are amazing! They are the gateway to life and should be treated with respect no mattter their shape, size or color!
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8 month old surface anchor stopped by the shop for a check up. Was able to snap a couple good pictures. Surface Anchors are generally considered “long-term temporary” piercings that require regular maintenance even years down the road. We used a @SamppaVonCyborg designed base from Anatometal with an @isbodyjewelry Industrial Strength Swarovski Elements top. This is healing out nicely and this client is in absolute love with her piercing.
Anonymous said: Sorry for bothering you with that question. I'm sure you would get tired of being asked "how do i be a piercer" all the time :/ The help was very appreciated!
Hey it’s alright, I had a big long answer typed out and then it messed up so I’ll start again. I’ve been professionally piercing for eight years. Which means I’ve been piercing for 10 + years in reality. Like most of the people in this industry that have been in it that long I found bme at a super young age. I had a copy of modern primitives, etc. etc. I read everything I could and did as much research as possible and started piercing myself and my friends. DO NOT DO THAT. When I was 17 I got my knuckles tattooed at a well known shop and asked if they knew of anyone who needed a piercer. He gave me the name of a lady who owned a shop in the next town over that he had worked at so I grabbed a collection of photos (that I wish I still had) and took them over to her. I got the job and was piercing full time a few weeks later. A couple of months in I took all my savings and went to the fakir intensives. Going out to eat with Jef Saunders and Todd almighty changed my life forever. I was grateful to learn that we were using leroi jewelry back home haha. After another year at that shop she closed. I traveled around for a bit until I started at another shop in town. I worked for awhile but decided it wasn’t the kind of shop I wanted to be in. Again I traveled around for a bit and again started at another shop. I eventually talked the owner into ordering quality jewelry for awhile but he didn’t see the need for it so I started buying jewelry out of pocket. After a year or so of arguing with him I decided to quit. If I’m not going to do high quality piercing I’m not going to do it at all. I traveled for a long time, lived in Chicago, lived in mississippi. Then I came back home and got offered a job at the shop I’m at now. It’s a great studio, incredibly high end, great tattoo artists that should be way more well known than they are.. They care about quality. I’ve been there for two and a half years now. Anyway, the moral of the story is, it took a long time to get where I am. I had to go through a lot of bullshit, deal with a lot of shitty people, travel, step out of the industry for a minute to reevaluate myself.. It’s not easy. Realistically if you want to make a ton of money or “be a big deal and get famous” Then don’t bother. It’s an over saturated industry.. Their are to many shit piercers that need to get better or quit. If you’re determined to be a piercer then get a great apprenticeship and don’t settle for less. If it doesn’t then it doesn’t happen. You don’t have to pierce. I don’t mean to sound harsh it’s just the truth.. We don’t need anymore hack piercers. If you’re going to do it do it because you love it and work your ass off to be the absolute best.
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Two years ago this very day we received our approval from the Florida Department of Health to open for business and that’s EXACTLY what we did! Come help us celebrate at our Annual Hot Rod Round Up Anniversary Party and Art Show today! Fun starts at 7pm! #hotrods #lowbro #art #artshow #anniversary #tattoowestpalmbeach #piercingwestpalmbeach #palmbeach #lovefl #funinthesun #partytime #instafun #letsdothis #westpalmbeach #thingstodotoday (at Ink And Pistons)